D. H. RAMSEY LIBRARY
Folder #3 - 1922



March 8, 1922. "Letter from Fred Seely to Charlotte Yale" [3bitry0005a]. In Biltmore Industries Archive
D. H. Ramsey Library, UNCA

Title Tryon Toy-Makers and Weavers, Tryon, NC - Folder #3 - 1922
Creator  Biltmore Industries
Alt. Creator Grovewood Galleries, Inc.
Alt. Creator D.H. Ramsey Library Special Collections
Subject Keyword :
Tryon Toy-Makers and Weavers ; Biltmore Industries ; Homespun Shops ; weaving ; handicraft ; wood carving ; Eleanor P. Vance ; Charlotte L. Yale ; George W. Vanderbilt ;  Fred Seely ; wool ; wool carding ; wool dying ; Grovewood Gallery ; Ruth Hatch ; settlement house ;  ; 
Subject LCSH :
Tryon Toy-Makers and Weavers
Biltmore Industries
Biltmore Homespun
Decorative arts -- North Carolina
Artisans -- North Carolina
Hand weaving -- North Carolina
Handicraft -- North Carolina
Vance, Eleanor
Yale, Charlotte
Hatch, Ruth
Seely, Fred L. 
Grove, E.W. 
Weavers -- North Carolina
Weaving -- Appalachian Mountains
Appalachian Mountains -- History
Description Various letters of correspondence from Chalotte L. Yale and Eleanor Vance, founders of the Biltmore Estate Industries to and from Fred L. Seely and interested parties regarding the development and maintenance of Tryon Toy-Makers and Weavers in Tryon, NC. Correspondence covers the year1921 and is useful in building a history of the Toy-Makers as well as craft industries in western North Carolina. 
Publisher D.H. Ramsey Library, Special Collections, University of North Carolina at Asheville 28804
Contributor Jerry Ball, Grovewood Gallery, Inc.
Date 2004-06-11
Type  Image ; text ; manuscript
Format Digital files ; 
Identifier http://toto.lib.unca.edu/findingaids/mss/BiltmoreIndustries/BiltmoreIndustries.html
Source M01.08
Language en=English
Relation Fred L. Seely Oral History [restricted use] ; E.M. Ball Collection 
Coverage 1921 ; Tryon, N.C. and Asheville, NC
Rights Restrictions apply.
Any display, publication, or public use must credit the Grovewood Gallery, Inc. Asheville, NC and the D.H. Ramsey Library, Special Collections, University of North Carolina at Asheville. Copyright retained by the creators of certain items in the collection, or their descendents, as stipulated by United States copyright law.  
Donor Donor number 168
Acquisition 2001-11-20
Citation The Biltmore Industries Collection (1901-1980), D.H. Ramsey Library, Special Collections, University of North Carolina at Asheville 28804.
Any use of the materials in this collection must cite the Grovewood Gallery, Inc.,, 111 Grovewood Road, Asheville NC 28804.
Processed by Jerry Ball, Museum Attendant and Resident Historian, Grovewood Gallery (2000-2001) and  UNCA Special Collections staff, 2001 ; 2004-06-11 .
Last update 2004-06-15
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1   0001 February 11, 1922.  Letter from Charlotte Yale to Miss Hatch. "Thank you for your fine orders just received...Ark and the Ox Cart...Easter..."
    00002 March 3, 1922.Letter from Tryon Toy-Makers to Miss Ruth Hatch. "We are sending four dozen dolls today, the last shipment of order No.593.
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March 6, 1922. Letter from Charlotte Yale to Fred Seely. "We mailed the toy this morning about which Miss Vance telephoned you and we hope you will tell us if it is worthwhile to patent such a toy and if you think so please tell us how to go about it...we tried it out on Wayne Creasman's little children & they have not tired of it but day after day make up games counting the times the Easter egg can be kicked thro' the hole by the rabbit... you see you are our Advisory Board and we have been holding up the Easter toy till we could learn your idea regarding it. ..."

    0004 March 6, 1922. Letter from Mary E. Lindsey to Miss Ruth Hatch. "Miss Yale has asked me to write and tell you that we are shipping a small box to you today which contains the new designs in our work..."
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March 8th, 1922. Letter from Fred Seely to Miss Charlotte Yale. "I am ever so glad to get your letter this morning and to tell you that the toy came a few days earlier. It is a fine toy and it is just along the line I have always thought it would be best for you to develop. This is to say a toy with action in it....I hardly know what to say to you about patenting it. Patents are such useless things. They cost a lot of money and in the end really do not amount to very much...The most reasonable course for you to pursue would be to send the toy just as it is, which I am returning to you, to Mr. Jas. L. Norris, F and Fifth Sts., Washington, D.C. one of the oldest and best Patent Lawyers, and a conscientious, decent man..." Describes quality improvements in the item and suggests resources for purchasing better springs.

    0007 March 8, 1922. Letter from Fred Seely to Jas. L. Norris. "Down here in the mountains there are two ladies about the most worthy in the United States. They have done a wonderful work among the mountain people for some twenty years. ...They are not in the World to make money, and I don't see how they even make a living at times , but they have more than money, and that is good friends, and if you ever get to know them you will be one more on their list..."  
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March 10, 1922. Letter from Charlotte Yale to Fred Seely. The Toy with enclosed copy of Iron Age came yesterday and your letter today. We are filled with wonder these days whenever we receive mail of any description for we are suffering from a new PostMaster who looks exactly like the picture of a Postmaster on a recent number of the Saturday Evening Post and who counts out the penny stamps one by one!...we are glad you pointed out the weakness in the spring....Thank you for introducing us to Mr. Norris..."

    0009 March 31, 1922. "Letter from Mary E. Lindsay to Miss Ruth B. Hatch. "Miss Yale has asked me to write and tell you that we now have the sawing cats which you ordered last fall on order No. 1564..."
    0010 April 6, 1922.Letter from Grove Park Inn to Miss Charlotte L. Yale. "In response to Miss Lindsay's  letter beg to advise that we will be very glad to have the sawing cats that we ordered last fall. ..."
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April 8, 1922. Letter from Charlotte Yale to Fred Seely. "We are sending to the inn today the Kicking Rabbit toys. Acting upon your suggestion, we strengthened the spring so that the lot are stronger than the sample we sent but they are not yet as strong as we shall have them when we have a little more time. ...Mr. Norris did every thing possible to rush the patent thro' sufficiently so as to permit our putting the toy on the market this week...Mr. and Mrs. Kalinan..."

    0012 May 19, 1922. Letter from Mary E. Lindsay to Miss Ruth Hatch. The box of toys to be repaired came yesterday..."
    0013 June 11, 1922.Letter from Tryon Toy-Makers by Mary E. Lindsay to Miss Ruth B. Hatch. "Miss Yale has asked me to write and advise you that we will not have any of the Arks with wheels for two weeks..."
    0014 June 15, 1922. Letter from Grove Park Inn, News Stand to Tryon Toy-Makers. In response to your letter of the eleventh, beg to advise that as we are so anxious..."
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June 17, 1922. Letter from Charlotte Yale to Fred Seely. "Miss Vance and I were greatly disappointed not to be able to go out to the Inn yesterday to see you for a few moments,...We have an appointment with Mrs. Vanderbilt at Biltmore House on Tuesday morning at 11 o'clock. Mr. Bacon, the Mayor or Tryon, and the same to whome we sold Erwin Swann and the weaving is going to motor us over!! May we bring Mr. Bacon over to meet you and show him your Industries after we leave Biltmore House?..."

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    0016 June, 29, 1922.Letter from Charlotte Yale to Fred Seely. "We found when we unpacked the carving machine which you were kind enough to sell us, upon our request that the complete countershaft was missing. We then wrote to the maker of the machine to see if it could be supplied and found them out of the business..."
    0017 June 30, 1922. Letter from Fred Seely to Charlotte Yale. We are sorry you returned the machine, because it certainly would be a simple matter to supply the counter shaft. ..."
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July 5, 1922.Letter from Charlotte Yale to Fred Seely. "We were very glad to receive you letter and it is just like you to want to help us about the machine.. Alexander Dodd Company ... C.O. Porter Machine Co. ..thought it might save expense in hucking off corners and shaping some animals we want to make..." They accept Seely's offer to make a new shaft and not charge for the new machine.

    0019 July 6, 1922. Letter from Fred Seely to Eleanor P. Vance.  Thanks for your letter. When the machine comes back I will see what we can do..."
    0020 Jully-August 2, 1922. Note: "1 carving Machine 'Alexander Dodd' $30.00. Handwritten note at top of paper "Not to be charged as here. S says to be given."
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July 11, 1922.Letter from Charlotte Yale to Fred Seely. One of our young girls, Rachael Capps, a mountaiun girl -- had Infantile Paralysis at 3 yrs. of age with the result that one leg is longer than the other and she formed the habit of walking on it doubled under, while the other foot has a twist in it. Would there be any chance of her getting into you Ward at the Mission Hospital under De. Herbert?...we think of what youare doing every day to reconstruct hamper[ed] lives. We feel like shouting the good news from the house top..."
    0022 July 15, 1922. Letter from Fred Seely to Charlotte Yale. "Thanks for your note about Rachael Capps. From you description it looks as if Dr. Herbert could help her. Would you mind having her fill out the enclosed blank, and bring it with her when she can coe to Asheville to see Dr. Herbert...."
    0023 August 21, 1922. Letter from Fred Seely to Charlotte Yale. "I was greatly pleased to hear from you and am sorry Rachel misunderstood the blank. The other Orthopedic Hospitals require a Certificate like this and my Attorney advised me that it was wise to have this done. Further than that, it makes a record of the case. I have 5 in the hospital at the present time, but will be very glad to have Rachel come when she wishes...."
    0024 September 14, 1922. Letter from Charlotte Yale to Fred Seely.  "The machine with shaft arrived several days ago and we want to thank you for your gift and for all the trouble you took to get the shaft for us. ...We are very happy just now over what you are doing for Rachael Capps and if ever you know an appreciative family it is Rachael's family altho' they will probably not know how to express themselves adequately to you...."
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November 9, 1922. Letter from Fred Seely to Charlotte Yale. "I am enclosing a letter I wrote to Mr. Dudley about the sand barrel and his reply. I suggest that you take the matter up also with the Patterson Foundry & Supply Co. 
    0026 November 20, 1922. Letter from Grove Park Inn, News Stand to Tryon Toy-Makers. "Will you please send us as early as covenient a bill for all of the toys we have received ecently and which have not been billed to us. .."
    0027 December 4, 1922. Letter from Charlotte Yale to Miss Hatch. "Thank you for your order No. 4075 for 1 pair Galax leaf and Pine Cone Book Ends to be sent to Mr. P.R. Shumway of Chicago -- the bill for which we enclose. We also enclose bill for two sets of book ends for you sales desk. One the galax leaf and pine cone like the one sent to Mr. Shumway and the other the dogwood design...."
    0028 December 20, 1922. Letter from Charlotte Yale to Miss Hatch. "Mr. P>R. Shumway 517 S. Wells St., Chicago (your order 4075) returned the book ends we sent so kindly cancel the Invoice which we sent you> We evidently did not understand what he wanted for we do not make the book ends in white plaster., -- only our models are in plaster. Possibly he did not like the Red Gum but we are entirely out of stock Walnut and could not get it in before Christmas. We hoped Mr. Seely would let us buy some of his but he has been so busy we could not find out definitely about it. ...."